Is it true that those hawaiian natives are hateful and mean and despise white people?|192605

I heard you should never go to hawaii until the natives change their horrible attitude.
They are also dangerous and the cops don_t do anything to protect tourists.
Is this true?

You are sadly misinformed. As with everywhere, there are some people who never like other people. Native Hawaiians (they don_t really like being called _natives_) are mostly part of the economy and cultural life--if you show respect you usually get it back. There are also Americans of Filipino, Samoan, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, Togan, Micronesian as well as white people (which are the predominant race as a whole) both who were born here and who moved here.

Yes, the cops protect tourists. It_s a VERY safe place--low crime but not no crime. Most crime is actually burglary as we do have an _ice_ problem here. People in Hawaii are generally nice and helpful, but we have problems like everyone else.

If you come with that attitude, you will get attitude back. Aloha!

Edit: Hawaiian Dee is also sadly misinformed about life here in Hawaii. As I said, there are problems, but on the whole it_s just different, not worse. I moved here right after high school and took my knocks like anyone and am now considered _local_ by most of my Native Hawaiian friends. I took time to really get to know the cultural, the Hawaiian language, and how things are.

You have already received many answers with a lot of good detail. But I just want to add that if you come here with an open attitude, _ want to learn about the local culture, you should be fine. If you come here with the attitude that things are so much better wherever you came from (which kinda begs the question, _then why are you here?_), well, that is another story. There will always be a minority of people who have a chip on their shoulder for a variety of reasons, but most people here are very welcoming. Now, if you are coming here as a tourist, you probably won_t even meet all that many local people, except those employed in the hospitality industry. Lastly, how could it possibly be true that the local police do nothing to protect tourists, when tourism is our bread _ butter?

Question for Dee... if inter racial marriages are such a no-no, how is it that we have so many hapa people here?

I think it depends on which island you visit. I was primarily raised on the island of Hawaii (which the state is named after), and I moved to Oahu several years ago to finish my college education. I have to say that it_s been a somewhat bizarre transition for me. Yes, I came from a much smaller town than the city of Honolulu, and many of the locals here tried telling me that my discomfiture stemmed from this. Nevermind, that my family did move around quite a bit, and I had lived in much larger cities prior to living in Honolulu. It took a bit of guesswork for me to figure out that there reason I felt out of place here was because the majority of the local Oahu people I have come across seem to have a very limited perception of what a local should not only how they should look, but also how they should speak and dress. (I am half white, don_t speak pigeon) It was never this way on my island. Everyone was pretty much accepted, an while there were occasional disagreements with the locals and the mainlanders who had moved there, but they were never divisive. Here on Oahu though, I have noticed that there seems to be a lot of locals who are very abrasive to tourists, especially white tourists. I woud_nt go so far as to say that they are dangerous, although you may want to stay out of certain areas of the island. Just be aware that you may face some animosity (read up on Hawaiian history to give you some insight) on your visit, but I would not use that as an excuse to not visit Hawaii. Not all of have that horrible attitude that you may be wary of encountering!

1. Sometimes.

2. No. But you should consider your relationship to native peoples and the land, and learn the history of Hawaii to understand some of the resentment. As Bob Marley sang,

_If you know your history,
then you would know where I_m coming from.
And you wouldn_t have to ask me,
who the #3|| do I think I am?_

Do the Hawaiian islands and cultures exist merely to make your vacation a pleasant one? No.

Should they be working to make their islands and social relations look just like the place you just left? No again.

Are there some social and economic issues they could stand to work on? Absolutely, but that_s their problem to solve, not yours.

3. Some are dangerous, mostly because of the crystal meth epidemic and other social issues, but crime in Honolulu isn_t significantly worse than crime in other major US cities. And our cops work very hard. Their priorities may not be your priorities, but that_s true anywhere.

Some people come here expecting a paradise of racial harmony, and are disappointed when the reality doesn_t match the picture postcard in their imagination. They aren_t interested in finding out more--the why of the situation--so they report back the message you heard.

OMFG! all these people who think they know what they_re talking about need to BE QUIET! they have no idea what it_s all about.

white people come here acting like they run the island, and those are the people who cause problems!

and i mean seriously it would be the same anywhere else!!!!!!!!!

and the cops are always there


so to all these people who ask this same question every dammn day shut up you dont know what you_re talking about and quit asking get your a** down here and take a walk in our _native_ shoes trust me you_d get irritated too.


get your history right and facts straight

you already have lots of answers and if i gave you a new one it would sound similar to some you already got.

i just wanted to say to hawaiian dee...inter-racial marriages are a NO NO? hmmm...most of the marriages in hawaii are inter-racial. my great grandfather on my mom_s side was pure filipino while my great grandmother was pure hawaiian. i don_t know about my great grandparents on my dad_s side. my grandpa on my mom_s side was full on white and my grandmother was half hawaiian and half filipino. on my dad_s side my grandma was hawaiian and chinese while my grandpa was white but raised by hawaiians. most marriages in hawaii are like that so i don_t understand why you think it_s a no no.

aloha!

First of all there are no _natives_ here. There are Hawaiians. And we have hundreds of tourists who come here and have no problem. This id because the treat that land and it_s people with RESPECT.

Yes there are some hatred for a couple of reasons. The Missionaries took away the Hawaiian language and the Hula. And the overthrow of the islands was an illegal act.

The police do protect the tourist what you have herad in untrue.

We just got back from Maui and Oahu. I DID feel like we were invading someone_s home many times when we were there, at least at grocery stores, gas stations, and food stands. Many locals would give us the cold stare and not answer back when we tried to strike up conversation. (maybe they don_t speak much english?). We often felt like a nuisance and wondered why they were so cold, as tourism IS their bread and butter, as boomergal mentioned.

We never felt like anyone was being deliberately hateful or mean, but did feel a little despised. We ventured out to some remote beaches, where mainly locals hung out, and felt sorta unwelcome (kinda like if you walked into a wedding reception where you weren_t invited). We were always respectful and kept in mind that it IS their home, and how would we feel if our neighborhood was overrun with nosy sightseeing groups!

But, I do agree. There was some tension. I wanted to tell them to just relax, and share :) We are admiring their world!

I don_t know where you heard such a thing. I have lived in the No. shore of Oahu for years and I have never been treated badly or _hatefully_. It is no different than any other place, treat people like you want to be treated.
I have always respected the Hawaiians and feel thankful they share their island with me. Are there issues..of course!! the same way there are issues with the native American Indians.
The police definitely have a full time job especially in Honolulu/Waikiki..its a metropolitan city, with alot of people/tourist. No different than L.A. or New York.
Personally, I have never felt love as I have here on the islands..... thats why it has the aloha spirit.
Aloha!!

You get the Funniest Question of the Month Asward.

Congratulaitons.

it is dangerous

When I went there, it wasn_t toooooo bad, but it_s highly understandable

Before I moved to Hawaii in 1984, I visited there with my 3 kids who were small at the time.

We rented a car and went to Kaena Point. If you_ve been there you know where that is. Rather inaccessible, dirt road at the time, extremely narrow and dangerous the farther you go - which I did NOT know at the time or I wouldn_t have gone there. We were just out driving around.

I came to a point where the road twisted around the side and I couldn_t see too far. Just then 2 local males came through so I asked them _how is the road up ahead? Is it safe_?

One of them said _Oh yeah it_s safe no problem, go for it._

The other one hit him in the side with his elbow and said _Don_t tell her that, she has little kids!_

The first one shrugged and said _Yeah! It_s safe! No problem!_

The other one just shrugged and shook his head at that point and they turned around and walked away. I heard the first guy say _So what. They_re haoles._

So I drove on a little further and found that not only was the road not safe, it virtually almost disappeared and for sure my car would have gone straight down the mountain and more than likely my kids would have been killed.

Ok? Yeah, I will never forget that, and the hatred in the eyes of that first guy.

So yes, there ARE locals who hate whites, and I mean REALLY hate whites. Enough to see three little white kids dead.

I should point out that the rest of my trip there was fantastic - as long as I stayed off the West side and hung out in the tourist areas, stayed on the highways, etc. and didn_t get into the local_s areas.

I did end up coming back there each year for the next three years, and always had a fantastic time. I finally moved there in 1987.

My boyfriend at the time decided to drive a pedicab. I guess those are outlawed in Waikiki now, but they weren_t then. There were a lot of locals who also drove pedicab, and they had their own area, their own stands that they stayed by. My boyfriend, who had come over with me, was 6 ft. 6 in. and about 280 lbs. ended up at their stand one day. Three or four guys decided they were going to try to beat the crap out of him for it, but unfortunately for them, my boyfriend picked one up, threw him against a wall, picked the next one up and did the same thing, knocked out the third guy, and I guess the 4th one ran away. So he never had another problem there.

I got a job at the Ilikai Hotel, where I cleaned the parking garages. I had to drive around on a machine that swept the garage floors, and then hop off to pick up any garbage along the sides. I was the ONLY white there in that entire department. The rest were all locals. And I had no problems with them except for ONE guy. And this guy was a freaking nutcase. He was a local, and he absolutely HATED whites. He would follow me around, glaring hatred at me from his eyes. Even sometimes I would be all alone working in the garages and look up and see him staring at me from around one of the posts in there, hatred in his eyes. It was really, really scary after not too long, and I went to my boss (also a local) and told him about it. He put a stop to it IMMEDIATELY. The guy who was following me around and glaring at me was around for a few more weeks, then he left and I never saw him again.

So these are a few of the incidents that happened, these are the more blatant ones. There were always the smaller things too, like getting the cold stares from some of the locals (not all, I got plenty of smiles too!) in areas outside the tourist sites.

Eventually my boyfriend left to go back to the mainland, but I stayed. I got involved with a local guy, and pretty much after that things were fine.

I did know a guy who came here from the mainland, he worked in the post office and got transferred. He brought out everything, his car, his family, the whole household. He left within six weeks to go back to the mainland. He said the locals in the post office were horrible to him, hated him, made his life totally miserable. I thought _wow what a lot of money he wasted to come out here just to turn around and go back._

His kids too, got beat up in school during the weekly _Beat Up a Haole Day_. Yes, they really did have that. The local kids at school would beat the crap out of a white or two every week. It wasn_t of course an OFFICIAL day, just something the local kids thought up and started doing. I don_t know if that still goes on.

So, people who say that there is no hatred of whites in Hawaii are full of it. Oh yes there IS hatred of whites. But I have to say that in all the time I lived there, I found much more acceptance than hatred. I lived also on the north shore for a while, and it_s pretty mellow there, not much of that going on up there. It was mainly on the West side that it happened, or among the locals in the tourist trade, a few of them hated whites.

Like I said, I did get involved with a local guy and things were fine from then on. I had no problems whatsoever. Except for the occasional eye roll from someone who thought that locals shouldn_t be involved with whites, but I didn_t get any overt hatred from then on. So for the next few years I had a great time there, no problems at all. Made a lot of local friends that I still have today even though I moved back to the mainland, we still keep in touch.

So yeah, anyone who wants to move there should be very aware that there are locals who hate whites, but that there are many MORE who don_t and are great people.

Also, you have to take into consideration that their land WAS stolen from them and that_s just not right in my opinion. There was a group when I was there that was just beginning. They were going to try to withdraw from the States or something, and take back the land as theirs, but I don_t know how far this ever got - at least I have never heard on the news that the State of Hawaii has ceceded from the Union and is now an independent country, so I guess they haven_t got too far.

Anyway, oh! About the cops? I never once saw a cop NOT protect anyone in danger, whether they were white or local. The cops there are ok. I don_t know how this may have changed since the ice epidemic hit, but the cops were just fine when I was there. They stayed out of our way, we stayed out of theirs, and everyone got along just fine. I never saw any police brutality or anything like that. Very laid back guys, most of them are, or were.

If I knew someone who was going to move there, and they were white, I would say go for it, but I would also tell them what to avoid, what to watch out for, what to do, what not to do, where to go, where not to go, etc.

Hope this helps some.

YES!

Unless you are BORN here.......

Otherwise I have been here for 6 years and I have experienced tons of racism, discrimination, and prejudice....

Also I am in a Inter-racial marriage....so that is a big NO NO here! So that makes it worse...

Never have I experience such reticule from people on the mainland as I do here in Hawaii...


But for tourists...its better to stay in Touristie areas and not venture to the WEST SIDE of the Island at all.

There have been many many violent acts of crime there with the locals and tourists...
I never go to that side of the island!

The police do not do anything because they are natives and locals as well